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John Self
30th Aug 2004, 15:10
Yesterday, when I was at my parents’ house doing the dutiful-son thing, my father hollered down at me from the loft: “There’s two boxes of your books here!” Two boxes? Two words, I thought: Im possible. I knew this because every time I had been to see my parents for the last several months, they had spat back old books of mine at me like a woodchipper. I had cleared out the last of them, for sure, several weeks back, subsumed them into my own shelves or chucked them straight in their recycling bin or, for the sufficiently respectable ones, given them to the charity shop.

But I went up the ladder and there they were: two medium sized cardboard boxes packed to the last airless inch – like a Krypton Factor challenge – with paperback books. Old Terry Pratchetts I’d grown out of. Tasty classics I hadn’t yet grown into. Paper-and-ink manifestations of the maxim Hope Springs Eternal that I never had read, never would, and couldn’t for the life of me fathom why I’d bought: Gerald Lynch’s Troutstream, anyone? And as these books hadn’t brushed up against my life for – what? – ten years or so, it was the work of a moment to dismiss them all into the recycler. In a few months’ time you could be wiping your arse with them, in which case mind the staples in the flyleaf of Cormac McCarthy’s The Crossing.

Though even then you will possibly be treating them with more respect than I did. For books, surely, are to be displayed, seen, aired, read and circulated. Like living things, as I found out, without fresh air and attention they atrophy and die. But then if they had been books I really loved in the first place, they would never have ended up in such deep storage. But who has enough room to display them all? Not me: and as I found out recently, I have well over 50 books at home that I have bought but never read on open shelves, never mind the ones that are hidden away. This list of what we might call Books Waiting To Be Read is a source of stress for any sane reader. Part of the problem is that it is even more pleasurable to acquire new books than it is to read them, so the tendency is for these lists to increase and not to decline. And the knowledge that the collection of books can only get bigger is an oppressive thought. Just as it’s depressing to realize that however carefully you spend your money through a particular salary month, the best you can hope for is to arrest the decline of your bank balance: it won’t actually go up again until you get paid. Similarly the part of me that wishes for more space and fewer books to store must hope for me not to discover any new books I like enough to keep, a vile conflict with the rest of me that wants constantly to be discovering the next universal pleasure-giver like Martin Amis or Kurt Vonnegut or William Boyd.

Obviously, like many booklovers, I have insufficient shelf space for all my books, so only the favoured few (hundred) are on display at any one time: the Premier League. The First and Second Division are in the drawers of my desk and bedside tables (which are just wide enough to hold "B" format paperbacks stacked spine-up), and so on down until you get to the Vauxhall Conference books which are in boxes under the stairs.

The books on the shelves are a source of pride and pleasure: the kind of books which give delight in the very sight of their spines. The books in the drawers could conceivably one day be (or perhaps in the past were) on the shelves but their time is not now. They could still be read or re-read at any time. The books under the stairs are those which will probably never be read again, but which sentiment prevents me from despatching to the charity shop or second hand bookstore (possibly they were presents, although if the donor does come back one day and ask after the book they bought me, the prospect of seeing me scrabble about in dusty storage cartons with a torch may well indicate that bridges should have been burned already).

Occasionally, tragically, a book can pass through all three stages - and on to the outside world - without ever being read. I confess that this was the fate of my C.S. Lewis Cosmic Trilogy. It took up too much space on the shelf which could accommodate three or so slimmer, newer books; it didn't fit the desk drawers properly as it was "A" format; and when I started to feel guilty at the sight of its winking (and increasingly concave through a sort of biblioarthritis of disuse) spine every time I opened the boxes, I knew it was time for us to go our separate ways. Into the bag with the rest of that summer's crop. But my plan backfired: three years on it's still there. The charity shop can't shift it. Season after season it ping-pongs back and forth between Fiction, Religion and SF. The price falls like a half life. Once it gets down to 99p, I just know I'm going to have to buy it back.

Now back to the shelves. How do we arrange books on them? A friend of mine has them by colour of spine, which is (ahum) novel. In my anally retentive way I do have a system, but I will defer to Anne Fadiman for her own explanation, in her excellent book Ex Libris, where she describes “marrying libraries” when she and her husband brought their book collections together in the same house:

We ran into trouble, however, when I announced my plan to arrange English literature chronologically but American literature alphabetically by author. ... The Victorians belonged together; separating them would be like breaking up a family. A particularly bad moment occurred while he was in the process of transferring my Shakespeare collection from one bookcase to another and I called out, "Be sure to keep the plays in chronological order!"

"You mean we're going to be chronological within each author?" he gasped. "But no-one even knows for sure when Shakespeare wrote his plays!"

"Well," I blustered, "we know he wrote Romeo and Juliet before The Tempest. I'd like to see that reflected on our shelves."

George says that was one of the few times her seriously contemplated divorce.

I'm on her side. Although purely alphabetical regardless of age or nationality, I do like titles to be chronological within each author. It's about seeing their development, or something. Dammit, it just makes sense! This is one of my few quibbles with Waterstone's, who catalogue titles alphabetically within each author; so for Martin Amis Money comes before The Rachel Papers, and Powell's Dance to the Music of Time dodecalogy (is that even a word?) is all out of order. Philistines! Although I’ll accept that if you’re looking for a specific one of, say, P.G. Wodehouse’s 90-odd books then their system has its advantages. (Is this a good time to mention the branch of Waterstone’s in my home city – admittedly when it was still a Dillons – that used to arrange biographies by author?)

But all this doesn’t deal with the problem of how to store all our books, er, humanely. Fortunately, I have scoured the lands and come up with the answer, care of William Gladstone (yes that one). In 1898 a posthumous pamphlet was published by him entitled On Books and the Housing of Them. It seems that WG was an insatiable buyer and hoarder of books, and understood very well that good storage was required to "prevent the population of Great Britain from being extruded some centuries hence into the surrounding waters by the exorbitant dimensions of their own libraries." (Chance would be a fine thing these days, where basic literacy is universal but reading is a minority sport.) He then goes into extremely long-winded detail on the precise best sort of shelving arrangements for books, a brief example of which will prove that, as Anne Fadiman says in Ex Libris (oh all right, it was her who scoured the lands for it), "he may have been the only man in history to have written a long-winded twenty-nine page book":

First, the shelves must, as a rule, be fixed; secondly, the cases, or a large part of them, should have their side against the wall, and thus, projecting into the room for a convenient distance, they should be of twice the depth needed for a single line of books, and should hold two lines, facing each way. ... [The bookshelves] should each have attached to them what I rudely term an endpiece (for want of a better name), that is, a shallow and extremely light adhering bookcase (light by the reason of the shortness of the shelves) which both increases the accommodation, and makes one side short as well as the two long ones of the parallelopiped to present simply a face of books with the lines of the shelf, like threads, running between the rows.

Suddenly I've gone right off books. Maybe that was his tactic.

pandop
30th Aug 2004, 18:04
Well considering I have now reached crisis point in book storage (I don't have the room for any more bookcases) I can see a point where all the books on my bookshelves at my Mum's house - I left approx. 30' of books at home when I went to University, and have been busily buying books ever since - will have to be boxed up and put into my loft, until I can afford a larger house (they will be good sturdy plastic boxes though)

Hazel

amner
31st Aug 2004, 10:47
A good friend of mine used to live on the top floor of a block of council flats in one of those massive penthouse-if-only-that-phrase-were-not-ridiculous-considering-the-neighbours type apartments. His penchant was political history (at one point he was the leader of Cambridge City Council) and American Crime. And he had thousands of books. Thousands. Being a bachelor he could please himself re storage and he did. Every single wall was covered in books, usually scaffolding boards supported by bricks.

It was a brilliant place to go browsing and easily the mosy uncompromising collection/display I've ever witnessed outside a bookshop. And he still had the damn things in boxes in other rooms. So, I guess, it's like road transport policy: build more and they fill up.

gil
31st Aug 2004, 11:20
Build more, and they fill up
Don't I know it. We have about 5000 books. One wall of room A (books double-banked on wide shelves). Half a wall of room B. Whole of one side of corridor C. Whole of understairs cupboard D. Whole of another understairs cupboard E. Set of shelves and several boxes on floor of room F. Whole of contents of two three-drawer bedside tables. A vast set of shelves in room G. A smaller set of shelves in room H. A modest pile awaiting reading on camphorwood chest.

Categorisation:

One bookcase for collectibles, encyclopaedias, dictionaries, art books, largely arranged by size.

One bookcase divided unequally between SF, Mainstream and Beryl's favourites [each alphabetic by author (approx chronological within author)]. This is the largest and most often accessed bookcase, and shares the room with some hundreds of movies on VHS on separate shelves.

One corridor for crime and spy fiction. One bookcase for historical fiction. One set of shelves for manuals and technical books. Most of the boxes and understairs areas are theoretically on their way to charity shops and car boot sales, but they never get there and are constantly rummaged for books we can't find elsewhere.

And, to relieve the pressure, we're about to shelve another room.

Colyngbourne
31st Aug 2004, 11:49
Couldn't guess how many books but they are all 'out' on view, bar a few second-hand duplicates of Narnia that I'm amassing for each of the four offspring.
The study holds three ten-foot shelves plus another six-foot double shelved case and a tall multi-shelved pine case which is double filled - accessible from both sides. The study holds blended fiction from mine and Mr. Col's ancient past, several shelves of theology, all the poetry, plays (including Shakespeare) and all of the Picadors I bought in the '80's. It also holds all my Latin and French texts, a stack of vampire fiction, sci-fi and Ricardian fiction, and 60 or so black-spined Penguins I stocked up on at university.

Under the stairs is a long twin-shelved case with more recent modern fiction and hefty hardbacks on classical music and things like Alistair Cooke's America.

In the living room a five shelved case in the corner is more hardback coffee table stuff and mostly modern fiction. Plus a few more Latin bits and Palimpular-green-spined old Penguin classics from the fifties.

Upstairs, five tall Ikea Billy-bookcases full of children's books and a small case of more vampire and esoteric fiction (mine). And the pile by the bed.

And the reference books in the dining room.

:roll: It sounds a mess. It's mostly grouped by author, but also by the period of life at which I bought it. There's a foot of Steinbeck/Iris Murdoch/Alan Paton in the living room I've never touched in fifteen years and Mr. Col can't even remember buying, let alone reading.

(We did chuck out a pile of embarrassing theology the other day, and my Jilly Cooper's and Virginia Andrews :oops: with some Jean Plaidy's.)

My problem is what's going to happen to them all once I snuff it, the children's lit in particular.

Wavid
31st Aug 2004, 12:01
It's mostly grouped by author, but also by the period of life at which I bought it.

A nice idea, which i think nick Hornby writes about in one of his more lucid moments when describing the organisation of a record collection in High Fidelity - a biographical organisation. I'm not sure I could do it, simply not knowing when I bought most of my books. I wonder what it could tell you about the various periods of life in question.

embarrassing theology
:shock:

Colyngbourne
31st Aug 2004, 12:10
Colyngbourne wrote:
embarrassing theology

Stuff that one bought in one's younger days that has dated somewhat, or of a theological perspective from which one has moved on...

Wavid
31st Aug 2004, 12:16
I would be quite interested in this, though I appreciate it is veering wildly off topic.

Without giving away your own current position, Col, what are the ideas that have 'dated somewhat'? Just a couple of examples would do, it just seems like an interesting topic. As a non church goer I'm surprised (though thinking about it, I shouldn't be) that there are trends in theological thought.

Colyngbourne
31st Aug 2004, 13:32
I don't know exactly what might be out of fashion, but the old '60's Honest to God arguments have probably moved on, as too the precise nature of 'liberation theology' of the late seventies/early eighties. Reports become outdated, trends in orthodox spirituality and Desert Fathers mysticism appear due to Rowan Williams.

John Self
31st Aug 2004, 13:46
...None of which, I am afraid, means anything at all to me. :shock:

Colyngbourne
31st Aug 2004, 14:00
The Honest to God arguments (which caused a bit of a furore in the early 60's) can be found here (http://homepages.which.net/~radical.faith/reviews/robinson.htm), and with an extra commentary by Don Cupitt here (http://homepages.which.net/~radical.faith/cupitt%20on%20robinson.htm)

John Robinson was an early liberal theologian and forerunner of Cupitt, John Spong and others.

Wavid
31st Aug 2004, 16:29
Back to book storing.

I have one bookcase, and one weird bit of furniture that I store books in. The rest go into spare shelves in my wardrobe and any space I have in drawers around the house. I have to constantly juggle them around so that my girlfriend doesn't happen upon them and demand they be moved. I also have to be careful about bringing new books into the house. I've never kept them in any order, particularly, I just learn where things are and find them that way, though my one proper bookcase has my favourite books collected by author.

pandop
31st Aug 2004, 16:51
I've never kept them in any order, particularly, I just learn where things are and find them that way

This sounds like the way my books are 'arranged' a few things are grouped together, but mostly they go where they fit, and then I remember where I put them.

The scary thing is not only do I know where all of my books are (both at my house, and my Mum's) but I can do this with my Mum's books as well

Hazel

amner
31st Aug 2004, 17:02
For the main bookshelf (chunky floor-to-ceiling affair built by the father-in-law) I'm dictated to by the non-standard shelf heights, so that all hardbacks have to go on the top two rows. Consequently this has broken up any sort of pattern I might want to impose and thus my 'system' is non-existant also.

It used to bug me a tad, but no longer. There are boxes and boxes in the loft too, just can't dispose of the blimmin' things.

Colyngbourne
31st Aug 2004, 17:03
Yes, and some arrangements I have are purely sentimental and irrational: I try to keep pro-Ricardian non-fiction in a gang, and somewhat separated from Alison Weir's venomous tome on Richard and Tony Pollard's insidious insinuations. My oldest copy of Cloister and the Hearth has to live on top of (stacked in a small pile as a book-end) my old school copy of Les Mains Sales as long-lived "book neighbours": it has no other place that would feel 'right'.

caprilaser
23rd Sep 2004, 17:10
I get very paranoid when people come to my house. I don't like the dishonesty of editing my possessions (and books) on display, but then get twitchy when people look and comment.

T'other day, however, a friend sighed and said 'Look at those verdant bookshelves'. It's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me (including 'I love you')

amner
23rd Sep 2004, 17:15
Welcome caprilaser, by the way. Glad you found us.

kumquat
17th Nov 2004, 22:30
Suddenly I feel safe confessing my shelving scheme. I get such looks when I tell people - maybe it's that I care enough to tell disinterested parties!

My fiction (which is nearly all of it) goes strictly alphabetically by author. Within each author there is a division. Firstly those that have been read, then those that have not been read. Within the first subcategory the order is based on the order in which i have read them, within the second subcategory the order is based on when they were purchased. I am currently adding a third subcategory within author and that is first editions. They are still sat in order of purchase at the moment. (so far i have yet to encounter the problem of a first edition that i have read before another paperback)

Then there's poetry. Somehow it never got very organised which is odd considering the ridiculously anal lengths to which the fiction is ranged.

John Self
17th Nov 2004, 22:32
Welcome, kumquat. Yes my poetry is not only not arranged alphabetically, isn't even all shelved together...

Maggie
17th Nov 2004, 23:04
kumquat---

I had to smile when I read your post. It always feels so good to know that there are others who do the type of "book things" that I do. The things I do make a lot of people think I'm a bit "nuts" But then, they are not book lovers !

Anyway, it makes perfect sense to me.........your system that is :>))

bakunin_the_cat
19th Nov 2004, 11:27
To be honest a lot of the books I read, don't really get time to find their place in my room. They're more itinerant wanderers who stay with me for a while until I've either read them, or decided I'm never going to, and then move on a' la Littlest Hobo to friends or other bookcrossers. This means that while I have read a fair few books in my 30 years 364 days of existence, I rarely have enough books actually in my possesion to warrant the kinds of complex bibliological systems that some of you seem to require.

While they're staying with me, books find an appropriate space where they feel reasonably happy and don't piss off their neighbours too much. If I then need that space for something else then I try and find them somewhere else that's at least as agreeable. That said there are some longer term guests of this bookhostel who by virtue of their more permanent status, tend to find a place where they're really content and just stay there. This seems only fair. After all the books I really want to keep are those I get the most pleasure from, so they deserve better treatment than a book that's just staying over tonight and then moving on again in the morning.

NottyImp
19th Nov 2004, 11:42
Hang on - that must mean you're 31 tomorrow. Happy Birthday, Bak, you youngster, you.

John Self
19th Nov 2004, 12:37
Since it's a leap year, wouldn't it be Sunday when he's 31?? Still, a good age to be in 2004...

amarie
19th Nov 2004, 15:11
But then, they are not book lovers !

I am just too disorganised to have any kind of system. It doesn't mean I like my books any less!

bakunin_the_cat
20th Nov 2004, 11:29
Hang on - that must mean you're 31 tomorrow. Happy Birthday, Bak, you youngster, you.

Cheers Notty, That really made me felt me good. Most of the people I work with are barely old enough to drink, and to them 31 seems positively paeleolithic. Mind you at their age, I thought I'd be dead by 30 so I can't really hold it against them.

I'm 31 today (Saturday) actually John. Forgot about the leap year thing. Oh well.

John Self
20th Nov 2004, 11:54
Then happy birthday!

kumquat
20th Nov 2004, 19:41
31 is a splendid age. well done!

rick green
20th Nov 2004, 19:59
For bak's a jolly good fellow!
Happy birthday & many happy returns!

bakunin_the_cat
21st Nov 2004, 10:38
Cheers guys. I'm touched. Too knackered to be more eloquent, but I really appreciate it.

Colyngbourne
21st Nov 2004, 11:05
Late to the party but hope you had a great day! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/party/party-smiley-006.gif

m.
21st Nov 2004, 18:35
Late too, and I missed Col's birthday some time ago... :oops:

Happy birthday to both of you! :D

bakunin_the_cat
24th Nov 2004, 12:23
Had a great day, thanks, quaffed a few ales, solved world poverty and oppression, made the deserts blossom, had a bit of a boogie. Failed to get off with someone who I thought was interested in me, but it probably wouldn't have worked out anyway.

Considering when I woke up I thought 'Another year older, another year closer to death.' it turned out pretty well.

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 15:00
Way back in John's opening post, he noted: 'Part of the problem is that it is even more pleasurable to acquire new books than it is to read them .....'

My initial reaction - 'Oh really? Well, perhaps for some' - crumbled almost immediately. It didn't take much to see that JS is spot on. Somewhere in the process that turns a book 'liker' into a book 'lover' comes the (slightly, in the early stages, to madly, in the latter) obsessive drive to acquire - regardless of how many unread books already line those home shelves, drawers, tables, attics and cobwebby nooks and crannies (and what else were coffee tables with underlying shelves designed for?) But why do we do it? For just as Imelda Marcos could only wear one pair of shoes at any given time, so the book lover has but one pair of eyes and cerebral reading equipment. Yet does that stop us? Does it bloody heckers. Somehow, there's always that feeling that your eyes have fallen on that particular book for a reason. Within it might lie pearls pertinent to you now; a gem or two that will bring succour to the soul, feed the mind, open new gateways of shimmering enlightment - or even that hallowed of book-lovers' Holy Grails - the perfect literary page-turner. So, we must, simply must, snap it up there and then, for fear it might ....what? Grow legs and do a runner? Go out of print the following day? Collectors of 'special books' - first editions etc., can be excused for snaffling their finds immediately, of course. But for the rest of us? When we already have as John has stated, so many already unread books and never enough time to read even half of them, why do we persist in acquiring more? If I voice my own reason, it has nothing at all to do with reason itself, but everything to do with fear. Fear that I might be walking away from that elusive perfect novel for our paths never to cross again. Fear that I shall be distracted by other lesser offerings and simply forget to buy-beg-steal-borrow that particular book if and when I ever do have a reading gap (ha!) Couple with that all the angst and effort already discussed over how to house one's reading collection and I'm afraid it only confirms something I have thought for sometime now: being a book-lover is to be ever so slightly mad. (Or should that be sad?)

John Self
3rd Dec 2004, 15:06
So, we must, simply must, snap it up there and then, for fear it might ....what? Grow legs and do a runner? Go out of print the following day?

Good point. However as the better of my two local Waterstone's was burned down recently (or rather, the offices above it were burned and all the stock in the shop was irreparably damaged by the water used to put it out), removing forever the prospect of getting hold of those older yellower books which nobody else had, from now on my practice is: no prisoners. Just buy.

RC
3rd Dec 2004, 15:16
A lamer excuse I never heard.

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 15:37
Excuses, schmuses ... bless you JS for now I shall acquire without guilt. Proven justification - what more does a book-barmy gal need?

Wavid
3rd Dec 2004, 15:44
A girl! A girl!

Where's yjmli?!

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 15:47
Who? What? And does he always spell things backwards?

NottyImp
3rd Dec 2004, 15:51
youjustmightlikeit. He... ah... likes girls who read books (but then don't we all?).

Wavid
3rd Dec 2004, 15:53
This (http://palimpsest.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2781#2781) will give you a flavour of what the man's about...

edit.... and this (http://www.palimpsest.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8425#8425) too.

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 15:56
I see. Well I'm sure he and you and everybody here are absolutely peachy, too (she says, making for the door .....).

Only kidding. A nice welcome (I think!)

bakunin_the_cat
3rd Dec 2004, 15:58
I'm sure, now that the word's got out that there is a new female member that youjustmightlikeit hasn't flirted with,
that our friend will be winging his way to the site as we speak.

Not that I'm saying he's not fussy of course.

Shit I've just realised how that came out. Bloody hell. Sorry I didn't mean it like that. I'll get me spade.

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 16:02
My oh my - did I say book-lovers were only ever so slightly mad?

Wavid
3rd Dec 2004, 16:04
Quite. As

Arrrrghhhh. How did I get myself into this mess? Trying to explain the impossibly convoluted disorders of the personalities that inhabit this asylum. Must be time to plug myself in to the wall. 'ZZZZZZZZZCKKC! Urgghhh! Sizzzzle. Crack! Ahh that's better.

bakunin_the_cat
3rd Dec 2004, 16:07
Slightly? :)

Must be time for my medicine.

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 16:12
Thank you for that, sir. Now I feel completely at home. By the way, am rocking on my chair as I type this - have just twigged. Yesterday, when I first checked this site out, I couldn't believe that John Kettley and John Suchet were such dumdums as to post their piccies while using messageboard-style monikers. Put it down to the gross vanity of tv presenters. Embarrassment and forehead slapping DOH! has never come any pinker!

NottyImp
3rd Dec 2004, 16:17
But I am John Kettley. Tomorrow, it will be mostly fine with rain in the West, but pretty chilly all over. See?

bakunin_the_cat
3rd Dec 2004, 16:18
To be honest I thought they were the real celebs too for a while, though I never told anyone! For ages I thought Natasha Kaplinsky had hidden depths. :oops:

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 16:20
John, then. Just one ever so small q: [/i]why?

Wavid
3rd Dec 2004, 16:22
Hey Honeypotts. You could start confusing people too - you can go into your profile page and choose an avatar. Why not the delectable Sophie Raeworth? That'll get yjmli's juices flowing...

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 16:24
Oh gawd! Such a newbie. Such a klutz. Am falling behind on my replies - and as for italics - well, I've screwed that attempt up to.

Before I get into any finer a mess, shall go and do something sensible.(well, it's as good an excuse as any).

Keep taking the tablets .........

Honey

HP
3rd Dec 2004, 16:26
Too. (See whaddamean?)

I think thingy's juices are in full flow as it is. The word tsunami comes to mind.

Ciao for now!

NottyImp
3rd Dec 2004, 16:27
Lol. I think it must have been a long week... it certainly has been for me.

bakunin_the_cat
3rd Dec 2004, 16:36
See ya Honey! (Is that what they call flirting?)

Anyway I better go 'n all. The joys of work beckon.

rick green
4th Dec 2004, 1:42
Welcome HP, and thanks for the thoughtful & eloquent post. Hope to see more like that.

youjustmightlikeit
9th Dec 2004, 18:31
My ears have been burning. I sensed a disturbance in the force, but i couldn't locate it, it was hidden here in JS's column.

Welcome Honey.

I've been called 'bear' by more than one previous girlfriend, if you'll be my HoneyPott, i can be your Winnie the Pooh.

HP
9th Dec 2004, 19:24
Well, hello boys .....

Rick - thanks for the welcome. Will do what I can, but that initial burst of eloquence might be your lot till I've mastered this rather snazzy messageboard. John, Amner and Wavid have been uber-patient and helpful, giving pointers, all of which are very much appreciated; though how they've resisted the urge to use the word ditzy or airhead is quite beyond me. True gents.


yjmli - Oh, Winnie, my lad! My, but you have a formidable reputation. And it seems your palim pals weren't kidding. But a word in your shell-like: you sure the W-t-P chat up line is wise? Utterly adorable and cuddly as he is, by his own admission Pooh is a bear of very little brain. How about Tigger, instead? Just as winsome, but with plenty of oomph (which might serve you better.) But who cares -- Winnie or Tigger - am tickled to make your acquaintance, sir.

Honey

youjustmightlikeit
9th Dec 2004, 19:58
Bliss

Touche Turtle
12th Jul 2005, 20:05
Bookshelves. Alphabetical. By author, then title. Fiction and Non-Fiction split, but not poetry and fiction.

rick green
11th Oct 2005, 21:32
I wonder what this guy's scheme is?

http://www.goodridgebooks.com/home/2.jpg

It's horrifying to contemplate, but the bold can see more http://www.goodridgebooks.com/home/beginning.htmlhere (http://www.goodridgebooks.com/home/beginning.html).

Digger
11th Oct 2005, 21:45
Oh my goodness! :shock: I wish I had that many, but I couldnt live like that - how does he get in!

Mind you, my bosses office is almost this bad!